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I recently purchased a Tonton 1080P Full HD Wireless Security Camera System, 8CH NVR Recorder with 2TB HDD and 4PCS 1080P 2.0 MP Waterproof Outdoor Indoor Bullet Cameras. This is my first impression review as I have only had the system a few weeks.First, I purchased a very similar security camera system on October of 2017. That system also came with 4 cameras and with a 2TB hard drive purchased separately was right around $300. That system was decent for what I consider a budget system. But my biggest issue with the system is that it’s motion sensing function was just too sensitive. I set the system up to send me an email whenever it sensed motion from one of the cameras. I would get between 400 to over 1000 emails a day. 90% of those were simply due to the shadows moving in the wind or a similar circumstance. I believe the way the system works is it uses software to compare pixels or groups of pixels to look for changes in intensity (i.e. dark to light or light to dark). I tried many things from lowering the intensity and only selecting an area of the image to trigger on and still got the 400+ emails a day.Otherwise, the rest of that system was fine, especially for the price point.But I started doing some looking and I found the Tonton system and it was spec’d very similar, however it had one big distinction. The cameras had a Passive Infrared (PIR) sensor. These trigger on heat and work much like the outdoor motion sensor light fixtures that have been around for 20+ years.My understanding and expectation is that the Tonton cameras should only alert if there is a body heat change from a person or perhaps an animal. And not based on dark-light changes.I have only had the system for a few weeks. The system had some quirks, but I have been really impressed with the technical support. The have been very responsive and provided some fixes with the issues I had. One of those is when I receive and email alert I was expecting an image or snapshot from the camera of the event the trigger the alert. The found a solution in a day or two.This required a firmware upgrade on the NVR (their box that holds the hard drive and hardware that communicates with the cameras and the internet). This is a bit annoying to have to do this. But the other system I mentioned above required the same effort. It involves copying a file on to a USB drive and plugging it in to the NVR and going through NVR’s menus system and executing the firmware upgrade. It took a total of 10 minutes. It was a littler confusing initially, but it makes sense and is easy after I had done it one on my original system.Simply put, for the price of this system, it’s what you have to do to save the money. Further, this allows some flexibility to improve or even modify the system. So, this may help to keep this system viable for quite a while.Keep in mind, in my research, systems at next level of cost systems do not provide the PIR capability.I have only had two cameras setup initially to test the system before I wanted to replace my other system. These cameras a right next to my original cameras and pointing at the exact same thine. Since then, I would say I have only received a 2 or perhaps 3 alerts false alerts each day.I would like to address what another person said in their review. They said that the video stream was very distorted. I don’t know how he is setup or his exact issue, but I had those exact concerns when I set up my system. However, I learned a few things. I had an old HDMI LCD TV. It works fine, but the aspect ratio is a bit goofy, with the image seeming to be squeeze side-to-side. However, with some playing with the system, this is no longer an issue for me. Here’s what I did/learned. First, I tried the system on a computer monitor with VGA input instead of HDMI and the that made the image much better. More clear and better aspect ratio. Second, when I download video files and play them on my computer, the aspect ratio is either normal or so much so I cannot tell. Third, these cameras have wide angle lenses compared to most other systems (Tonton is 3.6 mm, my other system has 4mm and 6 mm). The smaller the number the wider the captured image. And this can create a bit distortion. But honestly, I think the distortion is minimal or non-existent and that fact that the cameras capture more is a feature I prefer.Another thing to note, for me, the monitors are nice to confirm the cameras are working and watching the world go by and perhaps making sure everything is fine. But I don’t watch the monitors 7x24 and if there is ever a problem, I will have to rely on video saved to the hard drive to confirm what happened and get images of whoever was causing the problems and these images are quite good.I will probably buy a used or cheap VGA monitor to make to getting a better picture than my cheap LCD TV.OK, so am I sold on this system? Is it better than the first system I bought that I will replace my original system. Almost. I have to say I am 95% sold. My only concern now is reliability and their warranties and guarantees. And that will take time to see if the hardware holds up and if there are issues if and how they replace their hardware. I am not expecting problems, but like regularly buys stuff online, there is the occasional seller/vendor that is a problem.The previous system I bought came with 4 cameras. Two cameras failed over about 4 months or so. So, that is worrisome. However, that company replaced the hardware without issue.If the Tonton cameras and NVR are durable or if I have an issue and the Tonton folks replace any failed hardware, then this is what I am looking for.Also, this is a complete turn-key system. My brother has various IP cameras with SD cards and such. His cameras are decent, but Tonton is a complete system and it seems that once its set up just runs and doesn’t need any management.So, the conclusion is I plan to keep this system and replace my original system.I will however, leave subsequent updates to my review when I learn more about my Tonton and it’s reliability or if I have issues.All is not lost with the original system. The power connections are standardized so I only need to swap out the cameras. Next, the original system actually works fine for indoor use as the light doesn’t change unless someone is tuning on lights and then I want an alert. So little to no false alerts. I will place them in my garage and basement.Pros:PIR eliminates almost all false alertsSystem is pretty low cost for what it providesNight vision is quite good1080 is noticeably better than the 960 of the other systemThe camera mounts are little more difficult to set, but once they are set they are rock solid (other system is a ball mount that is hard to get tightened)One camera comes with a high gain/long range antenna (my original system I had to purchase one of these because how my system is set upI have not tried it yet, but this system allows the ability to daisy chain the signal of cameras. This allows cameras to have a greater rangeTechnical support has been very responsive and quickCons:Power cords for the camera power supplies are short (extensions are easy to find and cheap). The original system I bought had longer power cords and I still had to buy extensionsThe supplied mouse is pretty cheap, but that was the same with the original system – I bought a wireless mouseThe need an online presence to have a manual and FAQ’s – they said it’s comingTheir manual is actually in decent English, but the images are small and a bit dark. It could use a table of contents. (A website will fix this.)Maybe this is just my opinion and not a real issue, but the downloaded files are FLV format and the web interface requires adobe flash. My other system has the exact same thingOne USB port, this requires a USB hub if you need to upgrade the NVR or Camera firmwareMixed (Pro and Con)The PIR is very sensitive. My front door is about 30 to 40 feet to the street and cars driving by trigger the system. I have not had the opportunity to ask the TonTon support is there are any settings or something I can due to lower the sensitivity of the PIR’s. However, for other locations I really like how sensitive the PIR is.Note: I am not sure, but this Tonton system, my original system and yet another similar system owned by a relative seem to have similar hardware and the interfaces are very similar. I kinda suspect that either these have a common core design or perhaps even a common platform for their hardware. It reminds me of how Chevrolet, GMC and Cadillac where one parent company and shared a lot of common parts. This can be good as it means that much of the systems are standard between them and perhaps there will more systems sold and replacement parts will be available, especially things like cables and antennas and things that are needed to customize a system to deal with unique needs.At the end of the day, I still want to see this system run for a while, but for now, I happy with this system and I would recommend this system to other people.

I bought the Tonton 1080P Security Camera System Wireless, 8CH NVR Recorder with 2TB HDD and 4PCS 2.0 MP Outdoor Indoor Bullet Wireless IP Cameras with PIR SensorI knew from researching and checking out other peoples, mostly my friends systems that motion detection isn’t a solution where I live. Were in the high foothills where there are a lot of trees, shadows, etc. Get a little breeze and every camera comes alive trying to tell you about it.Through my research, this is the only system I found that has PIR (Passive Infrared) which detects heat, at an affordable price. It’s very similar to the detection system used on trail cameras so it just detects animals, people, cars etc. The bottom line is with PIR, your false alerts and event recordings will be greatly minimized as compared to just the motion detection systems.I hooked everything like its shows in the quick user’s guide and very limited manual that it comes with. I just set up everything up on my desk where my computer is and everything came on. It was truly plug and play. I actually use my computer monitor and just switch back and forth between video inputs. So knowing this all worked, I went ahead and mounted my cameras where I wanted and of course supplied them with power.Now I will admit, getting familiar with the software takes a little bit of time and testing to get it fine-tuned to your specific situation and needs. Here’s where there customer supports kicks in. There’s a person on their end named Abby that I dealt with. We did everything through email, I’d ask a question or very many questions and Abby would respond with answers and solutions by the next day. I have never had customer support that was that responsive and helpful!!So bottom line,1) The cameras have great resolution. I can read drivers license plates, see faces etc. Very happy with that2) The PIR minimizes false alerts tremendously3) The WiFi range of the cameras to NVR is very impressive. I was surprised. They have more range than my routers WiFi to my smart devices.4) The customer support is outstanding and will get you through the install.I would recommend this product to anyone, and already have, that wants an affordable PIR detection type security camera system.

I actually setup 4 camera systems and then returned them before buying this Tonton system. I had a set of specs I required and bought cameras that appeared to meet those specs. I found incorrect claims, difficult software, balky hardware, and unresponsive customer service before ordering Tonton. This system had the easiest setup by far. And I actually had to fend off the offers to help from Tonton's customer support. For my needs the cons are 1.) the antenna extender is useless, 2.) the PIR sensors seem uneven (some are more sensitive than others and I had to swap camera positions to use them appropriately), 3.) the monitoring software needs an android simulator to run on windows (it runs just fine on android devices. The pros are plentiful - great picture, good night vision, you can avoid a monthly subscription cost, hardware seems robust, software is semi-intuitive. I was an IT professional so perhaps it is easier for me - but I would note that Tonton would do well to hire a native English speaker to write their documentation. Some of it is difficult to decipher to the point you may as well discard it and just play with the parameters. All i all, a good investment that fulfills its mission